I have been toying with the idea of a multijurisdictional HRT or CT team consisting of highly motivated and skilled personell from different depts. in my county.

The way I see it, if you have a group of guys that are from the area, train dilligently, have the fitness and skill level and are 200 miles closer than the FBI,HRT then you have an efficient weapon against hostage takers, domestic terrorists, or anyone else that uses deadly force or the trreat of deadly force against lives.

My county has two SWAT teams, P.D. and S.O. Out of those two teams are pre trained, high speed individuals that would meet the physical and mental requirements of such a team.

There are several smaller depts. that have the same calibre of officer/s.

With assitance from an established CT organization and possible state funding for a "regional" task force, a "local" CT entity could be present for rapid deployment.

My question is....Has this been done before, if so, was it succesful
Would the Feds, or better yet the military,assist such an organization with training.
And would the liability outweigh the neccessity.

We have more situations in this county where such a team could be justified than some other counties in my state....lots of "extremists" and "meth cooks" around here.

Any insight or recommendations would be appreciated.

ZW

CC - I am the tactical commander for an MJ team in WY. Our agencies in WY are small for the most-part. Manpower, training scheduling and funding is the and always will be a problem for us. The system works for or area very well, however, one agency will have to bare the largest part of funding, training responsibility as well as Command. We have received federal help in grants (Equip. & Moneys) but little in the way of Training. We have reached a point where we train our on people in Basic & Advanced and the training is P.O.S.T Certified in our State.

If I can be of any further help, PM me

If you need specifics feel free to PM me as I have helped organize teams in the past. The NTOA has put out standards on what a SWAT team should be and what courses you should have. A part time team should train a min 16 hrs per month with additional time spent for speciality teams (snipers, breachers, medics, etc). Full time teams should train a min 25% of your on duty time. Not knowing what your specific group has as far as skill level/training/creds its hard to speculate how much work you have ahead of you. NIMS has also broken teams into levels for funding purposes, ie level 1 team being most prepared based on equipment (robots, NVG, medics, EOD, etc). Funding is very competetive right now with all of us nationwide going for the same money. You mention meth cooks getting DEA cert for meth is a big step, we spend a small fortune in meth filters alone.

Start with the NTOA they have sample policy, training guidelines, etc.

Also in your state you have the TTPOA to turn to for help, they should be able to square you away with minimal effort.

Thands guys. Ill PM you both later....got 4th of July festivities to do...But, what we have are two well trained and established SWAT teams. What Im thinking about is combining the best of the best to form a real counter terrorist team for HR and CT missions. My fantasy is that the regular SWATers handle the regular warrant service, baracaded subject etc. But the really crucial incidents, such as an infiltrated daycare, effed up bank robbery with hostages, or the old 70's style, " realease our brother in prison or we start shooting people" type of things. I am seeing a rise in such activities being reported in Europe. Not any actual incidents yet...but they are finding these guys before they act...I have friends overseas.

Id like to take a multijurisdictional team and train especially for such incidents. Sort of like a small scale "Rainbow Six" if you will. Just wondering if this idea has been played with before.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. If this is unrealistic tell me why you think so and give me examples when appropiate or available. I want the good, the bad, and the WTF are you thinking...lol.

It's an effective concept. As far as training goes, we had FBI Instructors very eager to train officers and that was no cost to the officers/agencies.
Been out of the LE loop for a day or two...I knew NTOA had recommended a minimum standard for special teams...but i am pretty sure NTOA can't make anything mandatory

Not sure if this something your already aware of, but have you looked into Project Griffin run in the U.K. ?

It's made some, (slow) headway here in Aust - not sure if its done so elsewhere, but maybe looking into that and overlapping your model over the top using Private Security - to a point.

Ref: www.projectgriffin.org.uk/

HW

relm wrote:

It's an effective concept. As far as training goes, we had FBI Instructors very eager to train officers and that was no cost to the officers/agencies. Been out of the LE loop for a day or two...I knew NTOA had recommended a minimum standard for special teams...but i am pretty sure NTOA can't make anything mandatory

You mean their blue ribbon council? They tried to set standards and basically monopolize the only training that would be recognized would be through them.