Progressive FORCE Concepts
Is teaching a PSOC (Protective Service Operator Cert.)
And a consecutive PVOC (Protective Vehicle Operations Cert.)
The course is in mid December

Now Ive never heard of these guys til now (Ive lived in vegas over 15 years), I just got the UNLV fall course schedule in the mail.
Two Important things I noted about them,

1. The price, $2,395 for the 4 day ,50 hr. PSOC course
(now sit down for this one) and for the 6 day 60hr PVOC, $6,295!!!
Thats right $1000 a day $100 an hour!

and (now this is good)

2. of the 14 instructors on their Web site, according to the Bios,(some of which are vague) none of them seem to have any current Iraq or Afgn PSD experience, or any HE security experience. THEY ARE TEACHING A PSD Crs!
They must be all buddies cause they are either Feds or CA. LE, martial artists or Airforce or DOE security guys.

Not sure about the "Certification" and who if any recognizes it?
Also I dont know about their reputation or how long theyve been around, Im sure somone here has heard of them, surely.....

Only thing I can figure is the Fed/LE credentials must've got them in the door with UNLV, plus one of the instructors that teaches the PVOC also teaches a Fitness/strength training course at UNLV. hmmmm...

Ripper

Hahahhaha let me get right over there and sign up..

Certification eqauls Red Flag

yea I've read their bio's on their website, looks like most of them work as security for nuclear sites with a few ex-military guys, and ex-cops...doesn't mean anything though...I've met a few western guys doing PSD in A-stan when I was there, who are not ex-military or police...one guy was only 20 years old with no military/police experience and he's doing PSD in Kandahar....let's not judge these guys by simply reading their bio's on a website...let's hear some honest thoughts about these guys WHO have done their courses or who have worked with them...then let's put the word out there that these guys are who they say they are...

Grayworks031 , you say that you ran across some guys that were 20 doing PSD . I would have to call B.S. since you need to be at least 21 to eaven carry a side arm , and if a company hires someone that is that age then I guarantee they are not worth a as well . There is a level of maturity that needs to be there and it is not there when you are in your 20's .

As for this thread , I believe that the offered training and so called cert is for people who don't know any better and will never be in a nonpermisive environement .

well he said he was 20...he looked young to me ...he said he wasnt ex military or police...iam not about to call bs on him...i met him a few times in KAF...

well all i can say is there are alot of people traveling through with a big wallet. you almost have to give it to them, i mean they may actually make some money off of rich kids. Or adults that want to play WAR GOD for a weekend ha ha.

I was contacted by UNLV for advertising and advised them that without further information on the company providing the training I was unable to let them advertise on the SAG sites. As you guys know I try to keep the fly by night companies from sucking anyone into their sub par courses. Here is the comprehensive response I got. Does not sound to bad.

Quote:

My name is Steve Krystek and I'm with a company named Progressive F.O.R.C.E. Concepts. I was given your name and email address reference an advertising inquiry with secureaspects.com made by the University of Nevada Las Vegas. I was asked to provide you with further information and clarification related to our PSPC program presented at the university. Since 2007, we have taught a college accredited EP training program at UNLV certified by their academic board. This coursework has evolved now into what is titled the 'Protective Services Professional Certification' or PSPC. Essentially, it is our 4-day Protection Agent Development course combined with our 3-day Protective Driving Operations Certification course (7 days total). In an effort to promote the availability of this instruction, UNLV asked us to recommend some possible marketing avenues. Your website was one of our recommendations. It was relayed to us that you had reservations about advertising this program. I completely understand your position and applaud your scrutiny of the unknown. I wish more individuals and organizations in this industry shared that desire to see a standard upheld. To put your mind at ease and share some background, PFC has been in business since 1997 and consists of two major divisions; PFC Training and PFC Safeguards. PFC Training is the instructional arm of our organization and services a variety of customers in the public and private sectors. We largely deliver programs of instruction to DoD units, LE tactical personnel and corporate EP teams, both at our training facility on Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas and at customer locations across the country and around the world. As a GSA contractor, our course offerings, staff qualifications, past performance, references, practices, etc. were thoroughly scrutinized and vetted by the U.S. Government. PFC Safeguards is the operational branch of our organization and it services corporations, public figures and high net-worth individuals both domestically and internationally. We operate over a hundred separate security details per year for various clients including a number of full-time/permanent details in Nevada and SE Asia. Virtually all of our instructors with PFC Training are operationally active with PFC Safeguards. I see this as not only a value-add to our courses, but an absolute requirement when teaching doctrine related to a particular career field. In addition to what our instructors do on a continuous basis with PFCS, their backgrounds, experience and qualifications for operating in high threat environments are 100% solid. We employ over 42 different instructors for various projects and we make it a point to ensure that each instructors' background is a proper match for the subject matter. On the topic of high threat operations, a large majority of our instructors have participated in hundreds, if not thousands, of missions over the past two decades in Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. Personally, my experience in that realm includes work in Mexico, Central America, South America and SE Asia. While I suppose the above is important to mention, to a degree, it has little to do with the scope of the UNLV protective services course they contacted you about for advertising information. I'm certain that the UNLV rep did not explain fully, but the PSPC program is designed to teach modern TTPs for low threat, low visibility protection details in a permissive environment with corporate or family member principles. Transitioning to a higher threat posture at times is discussed in the course, but it is not the focus of the training. I'm sorry if this program was not presented to you in the proper context. We are very conscious of how we're represented and if UNLV was off-base with any of their communications with you, I will be sure to address it. I hope this helps to clear up any miscommunication stemming from UNLV's recent inquiry. I'm unsure if they are still interested in advertising the training program via on-line sources, but it's more important to us to ensure that our instruction, staff and course offerings are depicted in the most accurate fashion...especially when other professionals in the community become involved. Thank you for your time and don't hesitate to contact me if I can be a resource to you. Kind regards, Steve