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sqwak1200 Security Badass


Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 382 Location: california
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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A BART(Bay Area Rapid Transit) police offcer was involved in a shooting on new years day. The shooting was caught on a cell phone camera. Here is the youtube link of the cell phone video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy-WSZMklc
Mind you this occurred in Oakland, CA.
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CAMedic Security Badass


Joined: Mar 27, 2007 Posts: 434 Location: Liberal, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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Nope. He's fucked. He just surrendered on a murder warrant, 2nd degree. They are going after him full bore. It's a racial issue, waaay too much video out there, and appeasement is the name of this game.
He's fucked.
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medicsixzero Contracting Guru!


Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 559 Location: Conus
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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I totally agree with CAMedic! He's fucked. If you watched the videos closely, he simply fucked up. It was a ND 1st class. Pure and simple. Did you see the look on his face right after the discharge?
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NC-cop Contractor


Joined: Dec 09, 2005 Posts: 77 Location: NC
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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hes fucked
I don't think it was an AD (or ND as some people call them). The officer clearly drew his weapon when the suspect was resisting with open hands on the ground. I hate to monday morning quarter back, but the only clear reason would be he thought he was drawing and firing his taser.
If this is the case....and he gets a REALLY good lawyer it might be ok for him and bad for the rest of us (cops).
Tasers are AWSOME tools...my department has fought against tasers for years (only supervisors and TACT team officers carry them right now) ...
I guess we will see what happens when (if) it goes to court...
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johndcop Contractor


Joined: Mar 19, 2007 Posts: 96 Location: virginia
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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I would say he's pretty fucked. Like NC-cop said I don't want to monday morning QB, but i can't understand why he took his weapon out.
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sqwak1200 Security Badass


Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 382 Location: california
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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Worst part is Jerry Brown is the Attorney General in California (WTF-he used to be known as Gov Moonbeam). Being in a cop now in California is difficult. I'm glad I left California Law Enforcement years ago. I hope the former BART officer has a decent attorney.
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Garda410 Contributing Member


Joined: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:28 am Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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Just from the video even if he gets OJ's lawyer......OK his first one.....he's SOL..
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hardknocks Site Admin


Joined: Mar 11, 2005 Posts: 2416 Location: Two steps ahead of you
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Can this guy get a fair trial? |
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He's done. The whole scene was a monkey fuck. No contact/ cover, nothing remotely looking lke they were trained for anything. He may have had reason to have his weapon out prior to what was recorded but I can't see any reason for it to be out during the contact being shown.
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